guardate cosa ho trovato: un'opinione molto carina di un ragazzo che è passato da 250r a gixxer600. Lo posto come riferimento per chi avesse dubbi sul "cosa cambia tra i due veicoli".
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So, here it is: My own take on the comparison between an 09 Kawi Ninja 250r and an 07 Suzuki Gsx-R600 for all those who are completely curious about the "big switch"...
As a disclaimer, I'm simply comparing 2 bikes that I've owed, evaluating the differences under my personal perspective.
First off let me start off with the initial mount.. As one would expect from mounting a bigger sport bike, you won't notice a huge difference in weight, but rather in seating angle. Between a ninja 250 & suzuki gixer, the gixer handlebars are lower, while the seat and footpegs are higher. In the past, I would to read things about sport bikes having a "forward seating" and think, "whatever my ninja is comfortable". However, once you take off on a gixer, you will notice that you're body is angled way more forward, than on a ninja 250. I can say, at this point, that a ninja 250 seriously lives up to the comments of being "user friendly" "more forgiving", and having a more upright seating position. Between my two bikes, the ninja is pretty much upright, whereas my gixer is almost ass up face down lol. So with this positioning in mind, I segway to my next topic...
Handling is way different between a commuter-friendly ninja 250 and a track-ready 600cc gixer. Not to come across as
"holier than thou" lol, but at least consider the difference in size between the two machines. As I stated before, the seating position on a gixer 600 is way more forward than a friendly ninja 250r. I initially figured that a bigger bike with bigger motor and beefier tires would be stable like a brick house....I was wrong. Given the forward seating position, with the shear size of the bigger bike, the handling is initially a little unwieldy, twitchy, and icy, on turns of any speed. That just goes to say that a 600cc bike has waaayyyy more intuitive, twitchy handling than any smaller bike. So, those who choose to upgrade from a 250cc should be prepared for more intuitive, twitchy handling.
I also want to touch down on braking between the two machines., seeing as how there is a noticeable difference. Once again, I stress the benefit of a ninja 250r''s engineering. You might read somewhere, that the power and braking on a ninja 250 are "more forgiving" for new users. Furthermore, from my own perspective, I can personally attest to this. It even mentions in your dmv written test how you "shouldn't brake in a curve". This fact hasn't ever been more relevant than when I started riding my gixer. I took a corner @ a simple 30mph and only rode my rear brake. On my ninja, this is no issue. However, on my larger gixer, this apparently proved to be quite a contrast. I hit this little harmless corner with my foot primarily on the rear brake, (and secondly supplementing the hand brake), and experienced quite a surprising unstability in traction. So, with this experience in mind, I guess the DMV said it best when you should "separate braking from turning" lol. So, in this aspect, turning is more twitchy at low speeds, due to the more angular seating and taller machine height. In few words, its very eye-opening to a sportbike experience.
Lasty,I would like to touch on the power aspect. Usually, anyone else would address this firsthand. I decided to address this lastly, as I personally experienced it afterwhich. It's a no brainer that you will experience a huge difference in power between the two machines. So I will simply state that this aspect is the most enjoyable of the whole 250cc to 600cc upgrade. As you ninja 250r riders may already know, the acceleration is fun, but harmless. As Blinkycab mentioned in a vlog, the major benefit of a Ninja 250r is that you can't possibly do a wheel stand and lose control. That can prove to be quite fun when you wanna test the limits on such a machine. However, be more cautionary and respectfull of a 600cc powerplant. You certainly will easily do wheelstands, if you want.
Comparing a Ninja 250 first gear roll to a GsxR 600 roll, they are both the same in concept. Don't be fooled though; When you do a first gear roll on a gixer, it's harmless untill you climb up to the middle of the power band, ie above 4k rpm. At this point, you must feather the throttle, unless you intend on first gear wheelies. What I'm saying is that a bike of this size pulls like you are holding on to the back of a Dodge Cummins Diesel truck while you ride a skateboard lol. It has immense pull, compared to a 250cc bike.
So the moral of this review is, the two machines are way different in power, amongst other aspects. This review is strictly for newbs like myself who are upgrading from a stable ninja 250r to a bigger sport bike. So, if you have been raised all your life from dirtbike to street bike, this information that I have provided might be useless lol.
in pratica dice che l'unica cosa davvero "cool" è l'aumento di potenza molto rilevante, mentre la posizione di guida è molto più "orizzontale" e poco amichevole rispetto alla 250.
Non ricordo chi, ma avevo letto qualche tempo fa su questo forum di qualcuno che diceva "la ninja ha una posizione di guida turistica, non sportiva"; ora, io non ho esperienza con guida sportiva, ma di guide "turistiche" (per come è uno scooter) ne ho fatte e la ninja è davvero molto scomoda..e secondo me è anche uno dei motivi per cui tanti la vendono con 3000km. Devi volerci girare perchè ti piace (così come su una qualsiasi sportiva) perchè il comfort è quello che è. E' vero, non ho grande esperienza, ma sul cb1000r naked ero sicuramente molto più comodo come seduta. Cioè ogni tanto mi viene la voglia di farmi prestare una ss600 per capire quanto più scomodi si possa essere. Non si muore eh, ma pensavo fosse una posizione "più seduta", dai milioni di video e recensioni che avevo visto/letto. Appoggio quindi chi diceva, in questo forum, "non sarà una posizione sportiva, ma di sicuro non è turistica".
ps. di dove sei SunsetRider?